Wednesday, December 31, 2014

9,000 Photographs from 1800’s Palestine / Israel – with no trace of ‘Palestinians’

 9,000 Photographs from 1800’s Palestine / Israel – with no trace of ‘Palestinians’

Posted on February 13, 2013 by 124 Comments

Where ARE all those Palestinians, the proclaimed one million of them who lived in Israel before they were ‘displaced’? Nowhere.

Nowhere, because they never existed. And where are all the mosques for those “over 1 million Palestinians” who are suppose to have lived there already in the early 1800’s like “Palestinians” claim? If they had been 1 million at the turn of the Century, or even in 1920 after they began immigrating to fight the British, with their rapid population growth Palestine would consist of over 40 million people today and not 4 million. That alone proves the jihad lies. Their population is small because they are new invaders and occupierswho arrived late with an aim to commit jihad. They never lost land that was never theirs to begin with!

The British army permitted merely a few Ottomans to remain due to religious observations, the rest was Jewish. In reality according to eyewitness reports the barren British Mandate had a very small number of people living on it. Félix Bonfils (1831-1885) was a French photographer and writer who was active in the Middle East. Four years after his arrival he reported 15,000 prints of Egypt, Palestine, Syria, and Greece, and 9,000 stereoscopic-views. He traveled to the region several times and we hear of no mass population of Palestinians, which contradicts everything the Palestinians lie about to the world.

His pictures did not manage to capture any photographs of a single so-called ‘Palestinian’ who are suppose to have lost land to Jewish occupation, if we believe Arab propaganda. All he found was a few bedouines passing through and some remnants of the Ottoman Turks. Guess why? Because the “Palestinian” people as we know them today never existed.

The original philistines which the Arab jihadi’s named themselves after were a small group of lawless bandits who occupied the region near Gaza by force and died out before the birth of Christ. Islam was created over 600 years after the death of Christ and is the world’s youngest religion.

Palestinians are a fake creation ordered and constructed by the Grand Mufti Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini [1889-1974]. They were basically discovered (formed and invented) and originate from mass immigration from Egypt and Saudi Arabia with purpose to commit jihad. The Egyptian fighters ended up in Gaza and the Saudi fighters ended up in the West Bank according to their rout of entry. This has been well documented by British government reports from Transjordan. It also fits the video clips and rants by Hamas leaders, who seem well aware that Palestinians are fake yet continue to argue that they ‘lost land’. We are dealing with a terrorist organization here, and not a people who became victims of loss of land.

It is also important to pay attention to the fact that once Israel had been assigned to be returned  to the Jewish people in 1917, Muslims rapidly began to pour into the region from other countries with a purpose to kill them. The first conflict and killing in Israel/Palestine was initiated by the Muslims. At that point to control the population influx the British government stopped Jewish people from entering the area. So for a short span, the Muslim population suddenly became a majority. Not for natural reasons but due to their rapid invasion and occupation. Therefore, if we look at timeline of events in history we will quite easily see that the REAL occupiers of the region are the Muslims.

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Birket, Israel in late 1800’s.
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Jews at the Western wall in 1870.
Yessayi Garabedian, the Armenian Patriarch in Jerusalem, Felix Bonfils
Yessayi Garabedian, the Armenian Patriarch in Jerusalem, Felix Bonfils
Felix Bonfils, Modern Jericho
W.C. Prime 1857 in „Tent Life in the Holy Land
Felix Bonfils, Solomons pools
From Thomas Shaw, Travels and Observations Relating to Several Parts of Barbary and the Levant, London, 1767, S. 331 ff.
Dome-of-the-Rock-1875
Dome of the Rock 1875 (Where are all the “Palestinians” in their so-called displaced and occupied holiest site?)
Israeli Man Riding a Donkey
Israeli man riding a donkey
Grinding corn in Jerusalem c. 1870
Felix Bonfils, Entry of Pilgrims into Bethlehem at Christmas time, Palestine, 1867-1885.<br /><br /><br /><br /> Source: Library of Congress
Felix Bonfils, Entry of Pilgrims into Bethlehem at Christmas time, Palestine c. 1870
Felix Bonfils, Women pray at the Western wall in Jerusalem in 1899.

124 thoughts on “9,000 Photographs from 1800’s Palestine / Israel – with no trace of ‘Palestinians’”

    • There is no such thing as the Palestinians.
      There really Arabs from Syria, Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
      Before 1964, Palestinians were called Greater Syrians.
      A Myth Called “The Palestinian People”
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    • The Palestinians have nothing to do with the name Palestine.
      The name Palestine is named after the Philistines, not the Palestinians or any Arab group.
      It was certainly not directed or bestowed to the Arabs in this area.
      The Philistines were from Crete in Europe and came to Israel 3000 years ago and were not Arabs or Muslims. Delilah and Goliath were Philistines. (Philistines died out.)
      Philistine is the name the Romans renamed Israel as a chagrin against the Jews.
      Yassir Arafat was not a Philistine, but an ARAB born in Egypt. Philistine originates from the Hebrew verb Palash, which means to invade. So the Arabs who started to call themselves Palestinians in the late 60′s are invaders and they want to create an Invadia state.
      There was never in history any state called Palestine governed by Palestinians.
      Tell us when did it ever belong to Palestinians? Answer Never. It was never a Pal land to begin with, so your question is invalid.The Palestinians never governed or controlled any land before 1993. To make it simple, please tell me one Palestinian President before 1948? Keep thinking.
      The Palestinians want a capitol, which they never had, in a country that never existed.
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      • Amazing article rebuking the lies of Erekat. Erekat is a Saudi Arabian invader.
        Please read.
        Erekat’s latest lie: “My family was in Palestine for 9000 years”. They are really from Arabia.
        February 02, 2014
        From the Times of Israel:
        Saeb Erekat, the chief Palestinian negotiator over the weekend again ruled out the notion of Palestinian recognition of Israel as a Jewish state. Speaking at a Munich conference, on a panel with his Israeli counterpart Tzipi Livni, Erekat said the demand was unacceptable: “When you say ‘accept Israel as a Jewish state’ you are asking me to change my narrative,” he claimed, asserting that his ancestors lived in the region “5,500 years before Joshua Bin-Nun came and burned my hometown Jericho.”Joshua lived about 3,300 years ago, so Erekat is claiming that his family was in the region for nearly 9000 years.
        Is this true?
        Not even close.
        Erekat was born in Abu Dis, near Jerusalem. I found an interview with another Erekat who was born in Abu Dis, named Hussein Mohamed Erekat. He says that his family actually comes from the Huwaitat region of the northwestern Arabian Peninsula.
        Indeed, this article about the dialects and clans of Saudi Arabia confirms the existence of the Erekat (sometimes spelled Areikat or Ariqat) families in Huwaitat, and they are one of seven clans that ended up in Palestine.
        Is Saeb a member of this clan? Yes, he is.
        This Facebook page of the Erekat family traces the Erekat family history, and this article confirms that the family came from the Huwaitat region, and it also mentions prominent Erekats – including Saeb.
        That article also says that before Huwaitat, their ancestors emigrated from Medina.
        All of the Erekats are related. Most of their most prominent members have held positions in Jordan’s government or armed forces, but three PLO diplomats are from the family, including Saeb, the US representative of the PLO Maen Rashid Areikat, and the PLO’s delegate to the Ukraine Khaled Erekat.
        (Saeb is also implying that he was born in Jericho, but he wasn’t.)
        Saeb Erekat is, once again, lying. Just as we caught him lying many, many times before.
        And after all these years of documented lies, no one in the media has had the guts to confront him. Because, you see, he may be a liar, but he is a moderate liar, and therefore deserves everyone’s uncritical support.
        And why should Israel have a problem signing a peace agreement with liars?
        UPDATE: Erekat actually said “I am the proud son of the Canaanites who were there 5,500 years before Joshua bin Nun burned down the town of Jericho.”
      • Why was Saeb Erekat born in Abu Dis? Because his parents forced their way into the area from Saudi Arabia. The Saudi invaders ended up in and near the West Bank.
        Besides, many Palestinians lie about where they were born. They have Egyptian and Saudi passports. So why don’t they return back to their homelands? Fact is that the British Mandate had no water (according to government archives in the UK) except in very few locations which is where the small population lived at, so the plains were not even habitable and was therefore empty. Saeb Erekat and his family were not natives but occupiers. A simple DNA test would probably put that straight. In addition, not a single “Palestinian leader” has actually been born in Palestine. Nor has any of the key figures claiming to fight for “Palestine”. This is about Jihad and not about land grab. The world need to be better informed. Landgrab is illegal and not subject to any form of recognition or approval.
    • YOU DELUSIONAL INBRED ZIONAZI PIGS are so full of your own B.S. Propaganda… You just repeat the rhetoric that you were brainwashed with and ignore REALITY to justify your theft of indigenous Arab lands….Showing a few pics of some empty sites proves NOTHING. You can take the same barren pics in certain sections of DETROIT at various times of the day and you will tell me that no Americans live there????? The world is waking up to your EVIL and shaking off the guilt instilled by your “HOLOHOAX”…….your days are numbered…..
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    • A handful of pictures showing undifferentiated crowds, or a few Jews propping up a wall, or empty spaces, are probative of just about nothing.
      I suggest that you access “Before Their Diaspora” which is a visual journey into Palestine before 1948. Every important aspect of Palestinian society comes to life in the nearly 500 photographs, carefully selected from thousands available in private and public collections throughout the world. Descriptive, analytical texts, introduce each of the five historical periods into which the book is divided. Carefully researched, captions identify the time, place, personalities and context of each photograph. The first printing was in 1984.
      Its author was Born in Jerusalem, Walid Khalidi was educated at the University of London and Oxford University. He taught at Oxford, the American University of Beirut, and Harvard. Khalidi is the general secretary of the Institute for Palestine Studies (IPS) and a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.
      You can examine not just a handful but 500 pictures and it is available to read online here:
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    • Moroccan Poet: Arab World is Imperialist, ‘Palestine’ is Jewish
      Outspoken poet angers Arab countrymen by provocatively quipping that Arabs ‘are more Zionist than the Jews.’
      By Ari Soffer
      First Publish: 9/21/2014, 10:44 AM
      ‘Palestine’ belongs to the Jews
      An outspoken Moroccan poet has angered many of her countrymen by accusing the Arab world of imperialism and defending the Jewish people’s right to a homeland in Israel.
      In an interview with Med Radio last week Malika Mezzane, who is an ethnic Amazigh (or Berber), challenged the official line in the Arab world, where tiny Israel is accused of being “expansionist” and where Zionism – the movement for Jewish self-determination – is bizarrely equated with imperialism.
      Asserting that it was in fact the Arab world which had pursued expansionist policies, Mezzane quipped that according to their own definition of the term, “Arabs are more Zionists than the Jews.”
      The Arab world, she said, believed that it was “God’s chosen people, and they have the right to extend their territory, at the expense of other nations.”
      Mezzane’s own people, the Amazigh, are one of the indigenous non-Arab nations of northern Africa which who were conquered and subjugated by the invading Arab armies during the Muslim conquest in the seventh century.
      Since then they have been subjected to persecution and periodic campaigns of cultural and physical ethnic-cleansing at the hands of Arab rulers in the region. In some cases, Amazigh calls for self-determination have been rejected by Arab states as somehow representative of “western imperialism” – a perverse inversion of the reality similarly employed by anti-Zionists against the Jewish state.
      Further infuriating her listeners, Mezzane insisted that the Jews were justified in establishing “their state in Palestine, since it’s their homeland.”
      “We have never heard that Alaska or Australia was the homeland of the Jewish people. It’s the Arab people who exceeded their borders in order to establish the so-called Islamic Arab World, at the expense of the Jewish nation,” said Malika Mezzane.
      The poet’s comments were decried as “provocative”, with many Arab Moroccans taking to Facebook to denounce her views. She has previously caused controversy by voicing staunch support for the Kurds, another indigenous non-Arab nation fighting for its rights in the Middle East in the face of hostility and concerted attacks by its Arab neighbors.
      Since the so-called “Arab Spring” revolutions which weakened the existing Arab regimes in north Africa, Amazigh activists have been more vocal in their demands for equal rights. Another Berber activist, author Boualem Sansal, provoked anger in his home country Algeria after visiting Israel to attend the Jerusalem Writers’ Festival.
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  3. You are liars and you’re only deceiving yourselves : )
    Those are photos of Palestine and all these people are Palestinians. Israel did not exist when Palestine did, Israel was fabricated in 1948 by terrorism and forced expulsion of the majority of the Muslim Palestinians, led by the Zionists who came from eastern europe and arrived as refugees to Palestine between 1890 and 1940. The population of Palestinians in Palestine was five percent Jews, eleven percent Christians and eighty four percent Muslims. They were all Palestinians under Ottoman rule. The Jews even referred to themselves as Palestinians except the European Jewish/zionists refugees who came from Eastern Europe with their weapons, they had refugee status until they rebelled and terrorized the Muslims out of their lands and settled in their places, all happened under the closed eye of the British mandate over Palestine after the Ottomans left. The united nations voted for the declaration of the state of Israel in the land of Palestine, and since then the Jewish community haven’t stopped persecuting, terrorizing and butchering Muslim Palestinians out of their lands and settle in their places, with their international media machine calling the Palestinians terrorist. Anyone who calls the Palestinians terrorists is an ignorant or a masked terrorist himself. A person who fight for his right is not a terrorist, the aggressor is the terrorist. Bravo for all the Palestinians for standing firm and strong against the terror MACHINE of the zionists.
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    • These are NOT Palestinians. Are you trying to claim Palestinians walk around in Jewish clothing? Arabs began flooding “Palestine” – British mandate – after late 1920’s. Their numbers increased considerably up to 1935 into hundreds of thousands to commit intifada according to historic government records. The British couldn’t stop them. The only residents on the mandate to that point was a number of Jews. The ancient philistines had no Arab background at all and were a very small community of dacoits who lived west of Jerusalem. They died hundreds of years ago, before your pedophile prophet was even born. Present day “palestinians” are a fake and Hamas invented people, illegal immigrants who moved in from neighbouring Arab nations. Even Hamas has admitted the palestinians didn’t exist at all prior to 1917.
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      • In the comment of Admin it says Arabs went to Palestine “to commit intifada”. In the main text it is claimed that Arabs came “to commit jihad.” Which is it, Intifada of Jihad? Can Admin at least make up her/ his mind which claim to defend? Intifada means uprising, something you do when you feel you live under an oppressive regime. You don’t go somewhere else to commit intifada. It is a nonsense.Youlive somewhere and there you start an intifada. Jihad means holy war (both figuratively as inn er struggle and literally as, well, war for religious reasons) . The two concepts Intifada and Jihad are not at all the same.
      • In the late 19th century, the Zionist movement called for the establishment of a nation-state for the Jewish people in the region of Palestine, which would serve as a haven for the Jews of the world and in which they would have the right for self-determination.[13] As a result, the World Zionist Organization and the Jewish National Fund encouraged immigration and funded purchase of land, both under Ottoman rule and under British rule, in the region of Palestine.[14] The Ottomans did not react favorably to the early Zionist halutzim and tried to restricted their development of the land.
        ARE U STILL SLEEPING?
        ** time and time again it stated THE REGION OF PALESTINE.
        source :wikipedia.org
      • The region of Palestine had no local inhabitants called Palestinians. I know your Muslim propensity to always lie and distort can’t accept that fact. Palestine had been invaded by Ottoman Turks and was under British rule. The “Palestinian” people as you know it were only invented in the 1980’s. Prior to that the term Palestinian people were not used in the dispute. These are jihadis who invaded from surrounding Arab countries demanding a Caliphate. This is well recorded in the British government archives no matter who much you want to deny or conceal it.
      • Ask the British mandate about more and more pictures for the Palestinian cities ,ask the British 1917 how many Jew where living in Palestine and how much percent of the entire Arab Palestinian . Shame on you terrorist Zionist terrorist liars .shame on you ignorant stupid DMIN …Palestine was not for Jews and will not be for them any time .this must be understood from Zionists Jews or Christians .Jesus was Palestinian not Jew .
      • The British mandate already has the numbers and the census. And everyone knows “Palestinians” are a fabricated political argument created by PLO in the 1970’s. Prior to that no one referred to any “Palestinians” but the wars initiated by Muslims was purely territorial in demand for a caliphate and Dar-al-Islam. No losses of “their” land at all and certainly no occupation. The only true occupiers and invaders are the Muslims.
      • Are you on drugs? Even the mentally retarded know that Israeli scums are a result of a thorough cleansing procedure from all over Europe to get rid of the Jewish filth and debts. They dumped them using the mandate on the amazing and beautiful land Palestine that belongs to the Palestinians
      • Why are you talking so low and hatefull about Jews? You don’t seem to have respect for other people. So my conclusion is that you are brainwashed with hate. I never experienced this with the the Jewish and Arab people I lived with in Israrl for a couple of years. Jewish people do not talk about you like you do talk about them. You want to kill anybody, even your own people who think differently. Christian Arabs have to flee, are discriminated or killed. Please do some introspection. Pray to God of Avraham ,Who happen to call Himself the God or Israel, that He Himself will fill you with His love and make you mercyfull. Then you will see that you can live in peace together.
      • The only filth in Europe are the Muslims – whom no one wants and never did want in their society. Muslims are the problem not only in Israel but everywhere in the world.
      • Since you want to rely on “Historic government records”, they include the British Survey of Palestine, 1946, which reviewed the entire period of the mandate from 1922 until 1946, That review concluded that the growth in the Arab population was due, almost entirely, from natural growth, with very little being due to immigration, whereas the absolute opposite was the case in the growth of the Jewish population.
    • Thanks for the FAKE UN web link you posted. It is a FORGERY. Its not an authentic UN website and is a redirect from forged propaganda. We have reported it to the UN as a fraud alert.
      Just more dirty Arab and Hamas terrorist propaganda.
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      • i read that out of the 1.2 palestinian arabs living in mandate palestine only 60-70 thousand desend from immigrants from sorrounding countries. can you show me a source saying that most of them immigrated as i would like to know the truth on the matter.
      • No, hundreds of thousands descended from surrounding Arab nations. It was al-Hussaini who was responsible for generating this mass immigration. He worked extremely hard traveling everywhere, publishing propaganda, trying to convince other countries to block, attack or simply exterminate the jews in Israel and beyond. Also, note that when the massive immigration influx took place Jewish people were not permitted to move into Israel. It’s because of the rapid mass immigration that Israel suddenly became filled with a Muslim majority. They were not from Palestine.
        Some references to this from actual historical documentation can be found here (check the About section) and there’s a timeline of events as they develop somewhere too which helps:
        Research takes time and there are plenty of evidence from plain historic resources; reports between governments and armies.
        Also, remember the population growth from “Palestinians” are 6 children per women. If they had been 1.2 million their population would have exceeded 10x that amount today. But they are a total of around 4 million.
      • Ottomans were occupiers. They came from Turkey. They had no “territory” in Palestine or Israel. They had no more territory there than al-Qaeda has territory in Germany or France.
    • TQATALLAH – In those days in late 19th Century neither Israel existed – neither did the so called palestinians. The Palestinian People were invented in 1964 by The PLO and Yasser Arafat – for political reasons only, and nothing else.
      You are just redirecting and rewriting historical facts, which in those days in late 1800 was: This territory was still a part of The Ottoman Impire, and what you see from these Pictures are only turks and jews, Greek Katholic Orthodox clericals and a whole crowd of people from all over the whole region.
      After World War One – *The British Mandate Of Palestine* became established. Jews from Europe Came, but so did arabs in huge numbers, migrating from starvation from other parts of the region as Transjordan, Syria, Lebanon Egypt, because now there were better living conditions in the territory West of The Jordan River.
      Listen and Watch the arab woice of truth, The Interior minister from The Gaza Strip, Fathi Hammad WHO in this interview declares that the palestinians are arabs from Egypt and Saudi Arabia, and he is too telling us why it is so.
      Listen and learn from this: http://youtu.be/RAhNxwh6CWM
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    • TQATALLAH You are very bold giving yourself such a name…do you worship yourself as well? No, the Jews who came from europe took up Turkish Citizenship, and were therefore every bit as much citizens of the Sultanate as any Arab, and by the way a large part of the “Arab Immigration” to the South Levant in the 1870’s were european Muslims from the Balkans, Circassia, and many other european refugees from the Turko-Russian Wars. Why do I know this? Because part of my Family were what were (under the Brits) called “Palestinian Jews”, descended from Binyamin of Tiberias, and where there when Abu Bakr came a conquering and colonizing up the Perfume Road from the Hejaz, where Arabs come from when they weren’t invading, conquering and colonizing other folk’s lands. So learn a bit of History, and realize that Jews were in the Land, always….By the way, please tell me why the Grand Mufti’s great nephew (distaff side), that Egyptian, Yasser Arafat, decided to use the old Roman term for the land, as it cannot even be pronounced in Arabic…given that there is no “P” sound in Arabic?
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    • If you are so sure that “Palestine , the country, goes back through most of recorded history,”
      I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine :
      1) When was it founded and by whom?
      2) What were its borders?
      3) What was its capital?
      4) What were its major cities?
      5) What constituted the basis of its economy?
      6) What was its form of government?
      7) Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?
      8) Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?
      9) What was the language of the country of Palestine ?
      10) What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine ?
      11) What was the name of its currency?
      Choose any date in history and tell what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date.
      And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?
      You are lamenting the “low sinking” of a “once proud” nation.
      Please tell me, when exactly was that “nation” proud and what was it so proud of? And here is the least sarcastic question of all: If the people you mistakenly call “Palestinians” are anything but generic Arabs collected from all over — or thrown out of — the Arab world, if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, why did they never try to become independent until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat in the Six Day War?
      I hope you avoid the temptation to trace the modern day “Palestinians” to the Biblical Philistines: substituting etymology for history won’t work here. The truth should be obvious to everyone who wants to know it.
      Arab countries have never abandoned the dream of destroying Israel ; they still cherish it today. Having time and again failed to achieve their evil goal with military means, they decided to fight Israel by proxy. For that purpose, they created a terrorist organization, cynically called it “the Palestinian people” and installed it in Gaza , Judea, and Samaria . How else can you explain the refusal by Jordan and Egypt to unconditionally accept back the “West Bank” and Gaza , respectively? The fact is, Arabs populating Gaza, Judea, and Samaria have much less claim to nationhood than that Indian tribe that successfully emerged in Connecticut with the purpose of starting a tax-exempt casino: at least that tribe had a constructive goal that motivated them.
      The so-called “Palestinians” have only one motivation: the destruction of Israel , and in my book that is not sufficient to consider them a nation” — or anything else except what they really are: a terrorist organization that will one day be dismantled. In fact, there is only one way to achieve peace in the Middle East
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      • 1) The land of Palestine has existed since prehistoric times, we know of the Canaanites which the Palestinians both descend from and have genetics from. On this point even “Israeli” academic Dr. Ariella Oppenheim of Hebrew University in “Israel” admits to this clear reality that Palestinians= indigenous Canaanites!
        2) The land of Palestine you fool, that has had the same boundaries since at least Roman Empire times!
        3) al-Quds (Jerusalem) where numerous civilizations have been based and where the Muslims built the Haram al-Sharif (Noble Sanctuary) in the 7th Century CE. This majestic Muslim religious site includes the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock. The Dome of the Rock is still actually the main symbol of the city of Jerusalem with its Golden Dome, this reality is clear in the eyes of most people of the world (both Muslims and non-Muslims) till this very day!
        4) Just some of the numerous Palestinian cities: Akka (Acre), Haifa, al-Quds (Jerusalem), Yaffa (Jaffa), Ramleh, Baysan, Nazareth, Safad, Tulkarm (Tulkarem), Lydda, Al-Khalil (Hebron), Nablus, Jenin and we could go on and on listing all the completely historically verified Palestinian cities that were ethnically cleansed by the Zionist European colonialist criminals.
        5) Mostly agriculture in early and medieval times. Now read just a few of the many great quotes on the economy of Palestine:
        In 1615 the English traveler George Sandys described Palestine as “a land that flows with milk and honey; in the midst as it were of the habitable world, and under a temperate clime; adorned with beautiful mountains and luxurious valleys; the rocks producing excellent waters; and no part empty of delight or profit.”
        A British missionary who lived in Beirut and visited Palestine in 1859 described the southern coastal area as “a very ocean of wheat,” and the British Consul in Jerusalem, James Finn, reported that “the fields would do credit to British farming.”
        The German geographer Alexander Scholch concluded that between 1856 and 1882 “Palestine produced a relatively large agricultural surplus which was marketed in neighboring countries, such as Egypt and Lebanon, and increasingly exported to Europe.
        These exports included wheat, barley, dura, maise, sesame, olive oil, soap, oranges, vegetables and cotton. Among the European importers of Palestinian produce were France, England, Turkey, Greece, Italy and Malta.”
        Lawrence Oliphant, who visited Palestine in 1887, wrote that Palestine’s Valley of Esdraelon was “a huge green lake of waving wheat, with its village-crowned mounds rising from it like islands; and it presents one of the most striking pictures of luxuriant fertility which it is possible to conceive.”
        This Palestinian wheat had historically played an important part in international commerce.
        All Truth Seekers read this following paragraph:
        According to Paul Masson, a French economic historian,“wheat shipments from the Palestinian port of Acre had helped to save southern France from famine on numerous occasions in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries.” No one can deny Acre as a Palestinian Port in which products were shipped from and from which the Palestinians helped and saved people (mostly Europeans like the French) from famine and starvation…
        Agricultural techniques in Palestine, especially in citrus-culture, were among the most advanced in the world long before the first Zionist settlers came to its shores.
        In 1856, the American consul in Jerusalem, Henry Gillman,“outlined reasons why orange growers in Florida would find it advantageous to adopt Palestinian techniques of grafting directly onto lemon trees.”^
        In 1893, the British Consul advised his government of the value of importing “young trees procured from Jaffa” to improve production in Australia and South Africa.
        6) The Canaanites had a government. The Roman administration certainly had a Roman government in Palestina. The Umayyads, Ayyubids, Fatimids, Mamluks, and Ottomans (all Muslim empires) had their own governments which very importantly were Muslim governments just like the Muslim majority nation of Palestine is under great leaders like Hamas! What about your “beloved” Zionists though, they only had their European inspired colonialist ideology announced in the 1896 publication of Austro-Hungarian journalist and founder of racist Zionism Theodor Herzl’s book “Der Judenstaat” (translated as “The Jewish State”). Then the first Zionist congress was held in the city of Basel, Switzerland from August 29 to August 31, 1897: it was here that the ZO (Zionist Organization) was established again in 1897. The ZO later became known as the WZO (World Zionist Organization) in 1960. Also why did Theodor Herzl (lived from 1860 to 1904) not want to have a government based on the Old Testament of the Bible (a side note a book of fiction), isn’t this what the Zionist try to base their claims on of an alleged “Jewish state”?! Instead Herzl adopted and implemented European style laws! In fact Herzl himself was a lapsed, non-practicing Jew; but wait Zionists I thought this was all about a “Jewish state”?! Oh you Zionists believe in a racially fantasy “Jewish state” much like the white Afrikaner racists in Apartheid South Africa!
        7) You ask for just one Palestinian leader before Arafat. Let me see well the Canaanites had their political leaders. Oh yeah and their was Jesus Christ, himself a Palestinian! Also on leadership: the Umayyads had theirs, the Ayyubids theirs (one of the most famous being Saladin the founder of the Ayyubid dynasty), the Mamluks had theirs, the Ottomans had their Sultans that had the land of Palestine (with the Palestinians living in it) under the control of the Ottoman Empire. But to get to what the Zionist propagandist author was trying to insinuate (about their allegedly being “no” Palestinian leaders before Yasser Arafat) there are tons of Palestinian leaders from before the time of even Herzl who died in 1904, Yasser Arafat wasn’t born until 1929! For the sake of time let me just talk about one very famous Palestinian family, that the Zionist propagandist are very familiar with and like to talk a lot about: that is the al-Husayni family of al-Quds (Jerusalem). The most famous member of this family was the Palestinian Grand Mufti of al-Quds (Jerusalem) Mohammad Amin al-Husayni (aka Hajj Amin al-Husayni) born in 1895 even before Herzl’s book forming the ideology of Zionism “Der Judenstaat” was published in 1896! Preceding Mohammad Amin al-Husayni his father Kamil al-Husayni was the Palestinian Grand Mufti of al-Quds (Jerusalem) who died in 1921 meaning he was born sometime likely in the early to mid 1800s, at around the same time as Theodor Herzl the founder of Zionism who was born in 1860 in the city of Pest, Hungary (in what was then Austria-Hungary). And then lastly we can even cite Kamil al-Husayni’s father (and thus the famous Mohammad Amin al-Husayni’s grandfather) Grand Mufti Mohammed Tahir al-Husayni who was the Palestinian Grand Mufti of al-Quds (Jerusalem) that lived from 1842-1908 thus he was born 18 years before the infamous Theodor Herzl (the founder of Zionism) was even born.
        8) Palestine has been recognized by all historical people through history the Canaanites, the Hebrews, the Romans (unless you don’t think they “recognized” the region of Palestina they included as part of their Roman Empire), the Umayyads who built the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa Mosque, Ayyubids, Fatimids, Mamluks, Ottomans, etc. All of these clearly marked Palestine as territory on their empire’s maps. I would recommend “Israeli” historian Haim Gerber of Hebrew University in “Israel” who has written a book called “Palestine and other territorial concepts in the 17th century”. Haim Gerber (himself an “Israeli” Jew) in his work as a historian finds clear use of the territorial concept Palestine and to the residents of this territory being Palestinians as far back as the Mamluks in the 13th century CE. Note again that Dr. Ariella Oppenheim says Palestinians Arabs are descendants of the indigenous Canaanites and all the later waves of Hebrews, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, etc. And if you want to talk about nations that exist today ever major Arab and Muslim nation only recognizes a nation of Palestine and not an entity of Zionist “Israel”. Some examples of nations that recognize only Palestine: Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Bahrain, Libya, Yemen, Iran, etc. Oh yeah and as for non-Muslim, non-Arab states: Cuba and North Korea both do not recognize Zionist “Israel”, only the state of Palestine!
        9) The Canaanites languages like for example the Phoenician language, Aramaic in the time of Jesus, and from about the 7th century CE till our modern day the Semitic language of Arabic (which is even one of the two official languages officially recognized by the Zionist “Israeli” entity/government itself).
        10) The Canaanite “Pagan” religions that even the Bible’s Old Testament speaks of. Since then in modern times the Abrahamic religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Today Palestinians are mostly Sunni Muslims, but there are still a significant minority of Palestinian Christians till this very day (mostly of Eastern Orthodox denominations). Interesting note all pre-Zionist entity (i.e. pre-1948) Jews that migrated to Palestine (mostly from Europe) called themselves Palestinian Jews. Note Palestinian Jews were always the very small minority of the inhabitants of Palestine, and Palestinian Arabs were well over 90% of the population of Palestine before 1948. And even today Palestinian Arabs outnumbered “Israeli” Jews if we count everything between the Jordan River and Mediterranean Sea the Zionist “Israeli” government themselves call this the Palestinian Arab “demographic threat”. What racist and apartheid language the Zionists openly use! This “demographic threat” is why the Zionists try to recruit new “Jewish” settlers from all over the world to come occupy and steal more Palestinian Arab land. In particular in recent times Zionist “Israel” has brought over many white Russian “Jews”.
        11) How is this pathetic question even relevant?! Note a very good point for the Zionist propagandist whose weak article you cited as for your claim: “Finally, applying such logic is very dangerous since it would eliminate half United Nations’ members overnight.”
        Also you do realize the modern philosophy and the definition of “nationalism” (as we understand it) is just that a very modern phenomenon in historic terms. Even encyclopedias tell us this: “Before the development of nationalism, people were generally loyal to a city or to a particular leader rather than to their nation. Encyclopaedia Britannica identifies the movement’s genesis with the late-18th century American Revolution and French Revolution; other historians point specifically to the ultra-nationalist party in France during the French Revolution.”
        Most of human history has been empires and loyalty to cities and tribes, so nice hasbara (Zionist propaganda) attempt with the historic term “nationalism”. And I could just as easily say to you Zionism was a late 1800s movement by European Jews (a colonialist “movement”, founded with the support of the colonialist British Empire see the Balfour Declaration of 1917 and before that the “Uganda Plan” aka British Uganda Programme which was a 1903 offer by the British Colonial Secretary Joseph Chamberlain to Theodore Herzl’s Zionist group to give the Zionists a colonialist “homeland” in East Africa in particular modern day Kenya) in response to European Christian discrimination.
        To close on this, the currency or money of the Canaanites, the Roman Empire, Umayyads, Ayyubids, Mamluks, Ottoman Empire, etc. is Palestinian currency you racist Zionist tool.
        12) Ask even an “Israeli” Jewish archaeologist in “Tel Aviv” about this and he can show you the artifacts of the Canaanites, the artifacts of the Roman Empire in Palestina, the Umayyads, Ayyubids, Mamluks and on through the Ottoman Empire. Oh yeah and the Palestinian Muslims constructed the beautiful, majestic Haram al-Sharif (Noble Sanctuary) in the heart of al-Quds (Jerusalem) in the 7th century CE: to be exact in 691 CE. The main monuments of the Haram al-Sharif are again the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the beautiful golden-domed Dome of the Rock. Again the golden-domed Muslim holy site called the Dome of the Rock is the main architectural and historical symbol of al-Quds (Jerusalem) till this very day among both Muslims and even most of the non-Muslims of the world! Again along with the Al-Aqsa Mosque in al-Quds (Jerusalem).
        13) You want Palestinian literature? Well I can give you tons! Canaanite hieroglyphics of the Canaanite languages are easily found on Canaanite artifacts and again Palestinians are descendants of the Canaanites even Dr. Ariella Oppenheim an “Israeli” Jew from Hebrew University in “Israel” shows this in her famous, renowned genetic studies on the indigenous Palestinian Arabs (note Arab/Arabic is a culture and a language not a race). Any Roman historian that speaks of Palestine and its Palestinian people is a part of Palestinian literature. Then going to the age of Islam 7th century CE to today; to save some time let me just say the Holy Qur’an! The Arabic Holy Qur’an is a huge part of Palestinian literature. For example verses of the Holy Qur’an are found on the artwork of Jerusalem’s Dome of the Rock again constructed in 691 CE.
        http://www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/copper.html (Includes images of copper plaques from the
        Dome of the Rock in al-Quds containing Qur’an verses)
        Thus the Holy Qur’an in the Arabic language is a central part of Palestinian literature and dates all the way back to the 7th century CE this is long before your “1967” challenge date! Then we can go through the works of the Ayyubids, Mamluks, Ottomans, etc. all this is Palestinian literature you Zionist fool.
        14) Palestine still exists you clown, only racist Zionists like you don’t want to acknowledge it! Even officially the British Mandate of Palestine (yeah even the word Palestine was there under the British) didn’t end until 1948! So until the Zionist usurpers from Europe declared their illegal Zionist entity in 1948 and ethnically cleansed out the indigenous Palestinian Arabs there was a nation of Palestine (again all the way to the 1948 collapse of the British Mandate of Palestine). And again Palestine exists today, and many nations both Arab and non-Arab (Iran, Cuba, and North Korea) only recognize a state of Palestine not a Zionist state called “Israel”.
        A good point for you Zionist fool calling yourself “Ya” from the “israel initiative”:
        In the land of Palestine everyone was (and is) called Palestinian because that’s what people call (and called) the land (i.e. Palestine). It wasn’t Israel, and hadn’t been since 722 BCE. Even Jews living there before 1948 were know as Palestinians, and the land was and is known as Palestine. For example what are British? They are the Saxons, Jutes, Danes, Scots, Welsh and Anglos. Not to mention all the recent immigrants from all over the Commonwealth. Yet they are all still called “British”.
        Then as for some of the remainder of the garbage the article you posted spews:
        The Zionist colonialists from Europe, Russia, and America who are mostly white Ashkenazis stole the land from the indigenous Palestinian Arabs (that even Dr. Ariella Oppenheim says are descendants from the prehistoric people of the land, the Canaanites and others). The Palestinians are fighting a just cause of resistance, and only racist Zionist fools like you can’t see this. And the article you post is really absurd in trying to claim the “Bible” is some kind of source, its a fantasy book of fiction! You also insult the oppressed Native Americans who also had their land stolen by evil white European colonialist invaders, just shows how evil you are.
        A good quote for you: “The “Jewish” population of Israel includes people from fifty countries, of different physical types, speaking different languages and practicing different religions (or no religion at all), defined as a single people based on the fiction that they, and only they, are descended from the Biblical Abraham. It is so patently false that only Zionists and Nazis even pretend to take it seriously. In fact, given Jewish intermingling with others for two thousand years, it is likely that the Palestinians—themselves the result of the mixture of the various peoples of Canaan plus later waves of Greeks and Arabs—are more directly descended from the ancient inhabitants of the Holy Land than the Europeans displacing them. The claim that the Jews have a special right to Palestine has no more validity than would an Irish claim of a divine right to establish a Celtic state all across Germany, France, and Spain on the basis that Celtic tribes once lived there. Nevertheless, on the basis of ascribed descent, the Zionist officials assign those they have selected a privileged place within the state. If that is not racism, then the term has no meaning.”
    • Hahahaha. LOL, can’t stop laughing. pallies do not exist untill 1967 they are invented by yassir shmarafat the bloody murderer and terrorist. You lot come from all over the arab world to work for the ottomans and the English yes and your great grandfather and mother fornucated so your grandfather was born and he did the same so your father was born, but that stillmakes you a palestinian because you are an invention there never was a state called like that, it was a province of Rome and never was a real state with its own ruler and law and government, no up to the English your lot were nothing than import from the other countries like this murderer shmarafat who was born in Cairo, he is an Egiptian nothing more than that. Hahahaha
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    • Dear Tequilla: Thank you for presenting the Arab version of history. You might add how the Arabs invented mathematics, science, medicine, telephones and the word ‘peace’. While at it, explain how the West persecuted the poor Muslims who conquered Southern Europe and how the mean Crusaders pushed back the Muslims to Mecca. The 1001 Tales of the Arabian Nights is now 1000 million tales and every one of them is believed by Tequilla and Co. He’s entitled to his faith in fables, just no one should ever mistake his stories for actual fact.
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      • Abbu Shuki: The argument is anot about Arab talents. There are many, as you point out. You left out architecture, which was awesome. This is about the non-existing country of Palestine.
    • All of TQATALLAH lies rebuked here.
      The Myth Of The Palestinian People
      Yehezkel Bin-Nun
      26 December 2001
      Palestinians doubt Blair can deliver,” announces the BBC. “Four Palestinians die in West Bank,” reports CNN. “IDF demolishes building used by Palestinian gunmen,” announces Israel’s government run Channel 1 News. The modern media is filled with stories about the Palestinians, their plight, their dilemmas and their struggles. All aspects of their lives seem to have been put under the microscope. Only one question never seems to be addressed: Who are the Palestinians? Who are these people who claim the Holy Land as their own? What is their history? Where did they come from? How did they arrive in the country they call Palestine? Now that both US President George Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon (in direct opposition to the platform he was elected on) have come out in favor of a Palestinian state, it would be prudent to seek answers to these questions. For all we know, Palestine could be as real as Disneyland.
      The general impression given in the media is that Palestinians have lived in the Holy Land for hundreds, if not thousands of years. No wonder, then, that a recent poll of French citizens shows that the majority believe (falsely) that prior to the establishment of the State of Israel an independent Arab Palestinian state existed in its place. Yet curiously, when it comes to giving the history of this “ancient” people most news outlets find it harder to go back more than the early nineteen hundreds. CNN, an agency which has devoted countless hours of airtime to the “plight” of the Palestinians, has a website which features a special section on the Middle East conflict called “Struggle For Peace”. It includes a promising sounding section entitled “Lands Through The Ages” which assures us it will detail the history of the region using maps. Strangely, it turns out, the maps displayed start no earlier than the ancient date of 1917. The CBS News website has a background section called “A Struggle For Middle East Peace.’’ Its history timeline starts no earlier than 1897. The NBC News background section called ‘’Searching for Peace’’ has a timeline which starts in 1916. BBC’s timeline starts in 1948.
      Yet, the clincher must certainly be the Palestinian National Authority’s own website. While it is top heavy on such phrases as “Israeli occupation” and “Israeli human rights violations” the site offers practically nothing on the history of the so-called Palestinian people. The only article on the site with any historical content is called “Palestinian History – 20th Century Milestones” which seems only to confirm that prior to 1900 there was no such concept as the Palestinian People.
      While the modern media maybe short on information about the history of the “Palestinian people” the historical record is not. Books, such as Battleground by Samuel Katz and From Time Immemorial by Joan Peters long ago detailed the history of the region. Far from being settled by Palestinians for hundreds, if not thousands of years, the Land of Israel, according to dozens of visitors to the land, was, until the beginning of the last century, practically empty. Alphonse de Lamartine visited the land in 1835. In his book, Recollections of the East, he writes “Outside the gates of Jerusalem we saw no living object, heard no living sound….” None other than the famous American author Mark Twain, who visited the Land of Israel in 1867, confirms this. In his book Innocents Abroad he writes, “A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action. We reached Tabor safely…. We never saw a human being on the whole journey.” Even the British Consul in Palestine reported, in 1857, “The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is that of a body of population…”
      In fact, according to official Ottoman Turk census figures of 1882, in the entire Land of Israel, there were only 141,000 Muslims, both Arab and non-Arab. This number was to skyrocket to 650,000 Arabs by 1922, a 450% increase in only 40 years. By 1938 that number would become over 1 million or an 800% increase in only 56 years. Population growth was especially high in areas where Jews lived. Where did all these Arabs come from? According to the Arabs the huge increase in their numbers was due to natural childbirth. In 1944, for example, they alleged that the natural increase (births minus deaths) of Arabs in the Land of Israel was the astounding figure of 334 per 1000. That would make it roughly three times the corresponding rate for the same year of Lebanon and Syria and almost four times that of Egypt, considered amongst the highest in the world. Unlikely, to say the least. If the massive increase was not due to natural births, then were did all these Arabs come from?
      All the evidence points to the neighboring Arab states of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan. In 1922 the British Governor of the Sinai noted that “illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria.” In 1930, the British Mandate -sponsored Hope-Simpson Report noted that “unemployment lists are being swollen by immigrants from Trans-Jordania” and “illicit immigration through Syria and across the northern frontier of Palestine is material.” The Arabs themselves bare witness to this trend. For example, the governor of the Syrian district of Hauran, Tewfik Bey el Hurani, admitted in 1934 that in a single period of only a few months over 30,000 Syrians from Hauran had moved to the Land of Israel. Even British Prime Minister Winston Churchill noted the Arab influx. Churchill, a veteran of the early years of the British mandate in the Land of Israel, noted in 1939 that “far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied.”
      Far from displacing the Arabs, as they claimed, the Jews were the very reason the Arabs chose to settle in the Land of Israel. Jobs provided by newly established Zionist industry and agriculture lured them there, just as Israeli construction and industry provides most Arabs in the Land of Israel with their main source of income today. Malcolm MacDonald, one of the principal authors of the British White Paper of 1939, which restricted Jewish immigration to the Land of Israel, admitted (conservatively) that were it not for a Jewish presence the Arab population would have been little more than half of what it actually was. Today, when due to the latest “intifada” Arabs from the territories under 35 are no longer allowed into pre-1967 Israel to work, unemployment has skyrocketed to over 40% and most rely on European aid packages to survive.
      Not only pre-state Arabs lied about being indigenous. Even today, many prominent so-called Palestinians, it turns out, are foreign born. Edward Said, an Ivy League Professor of Literature and a major Palestinian propagandist, long claimed to have been raised in Jerusalem. However, in an article in the September 1999 issue of Commentary Magazine Justus Reid Weiner revealed that Said actually grew up in Cairo, Egypt, a fact which Said himself was later forced to admit. But why bother with Said? PLO chief Yasir Arafat himself, self declared “leader of the Palestinian people”, has always claimed to have been born and raised in “Palestine”. In fact, according to his official biographer Richard Hart, as well as the BBC, Arafat was born in Cairo on August 24, 1929 and that’s where he grew up.
      To maintain the charade of being an indigenous population, Arab propagandists have had to do more than a little rewriting of history. A major part of this rewriting involves the renaming of geography. For two thousand years the central mountainous region of Israel was known as Judea and Samaria, as any medieval map of the area testifies. However, the state of Jordan occupied the area in 1948 and renamed it the West Bank. This is a funny name for a region that actually lies in the eastern portion of the land and can only be called “West” in reference to Jordan. This does not seem to bother the majority of news outlets covering the region, which universally refer to the region by its recent Jordanian name.
      The term “Palestinian” is itself a masterful twisting of history. To portray themselves as indigenous, Arab settlers adopted the name of an ancient Canaanite tribe, the Phillistines, that died out almost 3000 years ago. The connection between this tribe and modern day Arabs is nil. Who is to know the difference? Given the absence of any historical record, one can understand why Yasser Arafat claims that Jesus Christ, a Jewish carpenter from the Galilee, was a Palestinian. Every year, at Christmas time, Arafat goes to Bethlehem and tells worshippers that Jesus was in fact “the first Palestinian”.
      If the Palestinians are indeed a myth, then the real question becomes “Why?” Why invent a fictitious people? The answer is that the myth of the Palestinian People serves as the justification for Arab occupation of the Land of Israel. While the Arabs already possess 21 sovereign countries of their own (more than any other single people on earth) and control a land mass 800 times the size of the Land of Israel, this is apparently not enough for them. They therefore feel the need to rob the Jews of their one and only country, one of the smallest on the planet. Unfortunately, many people ignorant of the history of the region, including much of the world media, are only too willing to help.
      It is interesting to note that the Bible makes reference to a fictitious nation confronting Israel. “They have provoked me to jealously by worshipping a non-god, angered me with their vanities. I will provoke them with a non-nation; anger them with a foolish nation (Deuteronomy 32:21).”
      On second thought, it may be unfair to compare Palestine to Disneyland. After all, Disneyland really exists.
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  4. There was no israel at this time and there was also no palestine, it was called ottoman Syria at this time at its districts divided modern day Israel/ palestine into three areas also consisting of modern day Syria,Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia. The term Palestine was used by Europeans in the same way they would say “holy land” or “Mesopotamia” ie as vague geographical locations with no fixed borders.
    During the ottoman era the vast majority of the Arabs living in modern day Israel/ Palestine had never heard the word Palestine ever used. Also during the British mandate it was not jews and palestinans, they were refered to as palestinian Arabs and palestinian jews.
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    • “Never heard the word Palestine ever used” i dont this is true, as the name “Palestine” originate all the way back to Emperor Hadrian, who changed the name “Judea”, to “Palestine”, somewhere between AD 70-135 as a revenge for their uproars, in this period. Though, i agree the true name for this area, IS Israel! (“Palestine”, originates from the Philistines, the greatest ancient enemy of the Jewish nation, for more than 2500 years ago, who were eradicated by the jews and others) He nearly eradicated the jews from the area up to around AD 135, though, there has allways been a certain amount of jews, in Judea/Israel, apart from that, i agree with you!
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      • The world “Palestinian” was only used from the 1960’s onwards as a political tool to commit jihad. The philistines, who died out before Jesus was even born and consisted of a small group of violent criminals who occupied Gaza region had nothing to do with Muslims.
    • If you are so sure that “Palestine , the country, goes back through most of recorded history,”
      I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine :
      1) When was it founded and by whom?
      2) What were its borders?
      3) What was its capital?
      4) What were its major cities?
      5) What constituted the basis of its economy?
      6) What was its form of government?
      7) Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?
      8) Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?
      9) What was the language of the country of Palestine ?
      10) What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine ?
      11) What was the name of its currency?
      Choose any date in history and tell what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date.
      And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?
      You are lamenting the “low sinking” of a “once proud” nation.
      Please tell me, when exactly was that “nation” proud and what was it so proud of? And here is the least sarcastic question of all: If the people you mistakenly call “Palestinians” are anything but generic Arabs collected from all over — or thrown out of — the Arab world, if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, why did they never try to become independent until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat in the Six Day War?
      I hope you avoid the temptation to trace the modern day “Palestinians” to the Biblical Philistines: substituting etymology for history won’t work here. The truth should be obvious to everyone who wants to know it.
      Arab countries have never abandoned the dream of destroying Israel ; they still cherish it today. Having time and again failed to achieve their evil goal with military means, they decided to fight Israel by proxy. For that purpose, they created a terrorist organization, cynically called it “the Palestinian people” and installed it in Gaza , Judea, and Samaria . How else can you explain the refusal by Jordan and Egypt to unconditionally accept back the “West Bank” and Gaza , respectively? The fact is, Arabs populating Gaza, Judea, and Samaria have much less claim to nationhood than that Indian tribe that successfully emerged in Connecticut with the purpose of starting a tax-exempt casino: at least that tribe had a constructive goal that motivated them.
      The so-called “Palestinians” have only one motivation: the destruction of Israel , and in my book that is not sufficient to consider them a nation” — or anything else except what they really are: a terrorist organization that will one day be dismantled. In fact, there is only one way to achieve peace in the Middle East
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  5. I wouldn’t use the term Israeli to describe the man on the donkey, as the modern state of Israel was not yet established at the time the photo was taken. From his mode of dress he appears to be a Samaritan (Shomroni).
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    • First of all, what comes first? 1900’s or 1800’s? How does your pictures from later years prove what these pictures from 1860’s to 1880 tells you? Also, notice how few mosques there are in the pictures… Wouldn’t there have been mosques everywhere if there was over 1 million “Palestinians” already in mid 1800 like Hamas argues?
      Everyone knows the Dome of the Rock was never a mosque to begin with, but was confiscated and converted.
      Second, no one has ever denied that there existed no Muslims in the region. The region was invaded by Turkish Ottomans. And some still remained after the battle with the British, but a very very small number remained. What we are saying is that witness account after witness account through history demonstrate that the region was almost barren of people and with barely any Muslims apart from some wandering bedouines passing through until at least 1880.
      Only then did they start having a fresh number of Muslims crowding in from other regions because they opposed British presence in the region. And especially in the 1920’s when 100,000’s arrived and with the largest numbers rapidly arriving after 1930 which means there was mass immigration of Muslims. In fact, so many Muslims poured into the region illegally AFTER the Jews had been assigned their country in 1917 that Jews were blocked by the British to enter the region. In a single year over 30,000 Muslims would arrive into the region, so what does your photo prove? Muslims use this information to argue that the country had a Muslim majority. If hundreds of thousands of Europeans would flood into Saudi Arabia each year, Saudi Arabia too would have a European majority….
      According to “palestinians” they have lived there for “hundreds of centuries”, long before the Ottomans, and not since 1900…. This is pure fabrications. But you Muslims are good at lying and fabricating.
      Even while Transjordan was barren there was Jewish people living there who had been there generation after generation through history, through invasions of their country, through wars. The current “Palestinian people” apart from a very small minority did not exist at all in the region and the claim, therefore, that they “lost homeland” is completely fabricated and made up to justify jihad. They came from Egypt and Saudi Arabia so what homeland have they lost??
      And the majority Jewish people are also new in the region since they had no permission to return for centuries.
      Your photo is of crowds AFTER mass immigration. Show us pictures of the same crowds from verified sources from the 1800’s like we have displayed from this famous traveler and photographer who spent 30 years traveling the region again and again.
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      • The only thing I can tell you is that your arguments are baseless & based on biased opinions against Palestinians / Arabs / Muslims. There are about 11 million people living in historical Palestine divided 50/50 between Palestinians / Israelis, both side can’t get rid of each other even if they try & the best thing to do is for Israel to start seriously negotiating peace in the form of one or two state solution. My friend, as long as the Palestinians don’t live in peace you will never either….
      • How is my argument baseless? Mine is not an argument – it is factual historic truth, Muslims are invaders in Palestine, not a displaced people. The Muslim illegal immigrants are not only invaders in Palestine but the same jihad repeats itself all across the world be it in India, China, Thailand, Russia, Africa and so on where the exact same distortions and demands are used as the “Palestinians” to encroach and occupy other countries.
        Why don’t you start negotiating peace with al-Qaeda? Israel is not the aggressor. The rest of the world has no threats or problems with Israel. The world, however, has a problem with Hamas. Egyptians learned that very fast when Hamas began executing their people in cold blooded murders to try and occupy the government and install Morsi into power.
        And its also impossible for Israel to negotiate anything. Read the Hamas covenant which says they don’t want peace, they want occupation. How do you negotiate with terrorists? You either win or lose against terrorists.
        Neither is the other countries who face jihad aggression responsible either like Thailand, India, China like I mentioned in the examples above. The “Palestinian” people (Egyptians and Saudis) are a creation by Hamas – and Hamas is a terrorist organization. This is a terrorist occupation of Israel. You Muslims pay a heavy price for supporting terrorists and funding them with your endless donations.
      • “Peace” and Muslims are two words that never go together. And we frankly don’t give a damn of the endless Muslims lies, propaganda and distortions to occupy other countries.
        The “Palestinians” have peace. They just don’t want peace. The British assigned Jordan to the illegal Arabs to stop them from fighting and attacking Israel. But they didn’t want peace. Their purpose is not peace or having somewhere to stay. You Muslims want to occupy and take over people and their countries, like a parasite. You are a human parasite who can never leave others alone.
        Over 800 attacks, slave raids, invasions and tried occupations have been made on Europe alone by Muslims through history since the birth of your mass murdering and blood filled prophet.
        The world is getting very tired of you Muslims. If you imagine we will bend to a terrorist organization to “live in peace” – you watch out because you will never live in peace. You have a 3 billion world population that is turning against you Muslims, tired of your aggressions.
        And frankly, the people feel the world is a better place without Muslims at all. So you are the one who should watch your steps very carefully.
      • You’re right about the solution. It is peace. However, palestinians are muslim and islam teaches intolerance. So their religion is holding them back from living peacefully in israel and/or the land israel allows them to remain in. They’re lucky to have what Israel has given them but instead of gratitude they make war. It’s sad because palestinians are their own worst enemy. If they would stop the terrorism, Israel wouldn’t have to retaliate and that would be the beginning of peace over there. But obviously it starts with the people who make war. They MUST stop if they truly want peace. But really, we all know that peace is not the goal for palestinians. The goal is domination. They’ve made that clear with their bloody vengeance killings ever since they were defeated. They act like little crybabies because they lost. Every country has lost wars. Do they sit around boo-hooing about it? Or do they adapt to the situation and focus on the future? Ugh, these people really are their worst enemy.
    • Faez, if you take a close look, at the picture, you’ll see a lot of the classical turkish hat, called a “fez”, wich actually confirms “admins” postulation, the turkish was there… so.. thankyou for that…
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    • Moroccan Poet: Arab World is Imperialist, ‘Palestine’ is Jewish
      Outspoken poet angers Arab countrymen by provocatively quipping that Arabs ‘are more Zionist than the Jews.’
      By Ari Soffer
      First Publish: 9/21/2014, 10:44 AM
      ‘Palestine’ belongs to the Jews
      An outspoken Moroccan poet has angered many of her countrymen by accusing the Arab world of imperialism and defending the Jewish people’s right to a homeland in Israel.
      In an interview with Med Radio last week Malika Mezzane, who is an ethnic Amazigh (or Berber), challenged the official line in the Arab world, where tiny Israel is accused of being “expansionist” and where Zionism – the movement for Jewish self-determination – is bizarrely equated with imperialism.
      Asserting that it was in fact the Arab world which had pursued expansionist policies, Mezzane quipped that according to their own definition of the term, “Arabs are more Zionists than the Jews.”
      The Arab world, she said, believed that it was “God’s chosen people, and they have the right to extend their territory, at the expense of other nations.”
      Mezzane’s own people, the Amazigh, are one of the indigenous non-Arab nations of northern Africa which who were conquered and subjugated by the invading Arab armies during the Muslim conquest in the seventh century.
      Since then they have been subjected to persecution and periodic campaigns of cultural and physical ethnic-cleansing at the hands of Arab rulers in the region. In some cases, Amazigh calls for self-determination have been rejected by Arab states as somehow representative of “western imperialism” – a perverse inversion of the reality similarly employed by anti-Zionists against the Jewish state.
      Further infuriating her listeners, Mezzane insisted that the Jews were justified in establishing “their state in Palestine, since it’s their homeland.”
      “We have never heard that Alaska or Australia was the homeland of the Jewish people. It’s the Arab people who exceeded their borders in order to establish the so-called Islamic Arab World, at the expense of the Jewish nation,” said Malika Mezzane.
      The poet’s comments were decried as “provocative”, with many Arab Moroccans taking to Facebook to denounce her views. She has previously caused controversy by voicing staunch support for the Kurds, another indigenous non-Arab nation fighting for its rights in the Middle East in the face of hostility and concerted attacks by its Arab neighbors.
      Since the so-called “Arab Spring” revolutions which weakened the existing Arab regimes in north Africa, Amazigh activists have been more vocal in their demands for equal rights. Another Berber activist, author Boualem Sansal, provoked anger in his home country Algeria after visiting Israel to attend the Jerusalem Writers’ Festival.
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  10. Is this debate honestly very useful. Claim and counter-claim of who was first. This argument really does not address the need for Jew and Palestinian to learn to live together. I do have an interest in this. My mother is descended from Italian Jews who moved to England in 1700 and then two brothers and a cousin came to New Zealand.
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    • Who was first has all the importance in the world because “Palestinians” argument for their suicide bombings and training 13,000 children to blow themselves up is that they were there “first” and were invaded. No such thing ever happened. Palestinians are a terrorist creation. Would you want to open your doors so al-Qaeda come to live in your town? Neither does Israel. In fact, other Arab nations don’t want to take the Palestinians in because they know they are terrorists! Thats a fact. They HAVE a home country and even possess passports from their original home countries. They can go and live there.
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    • What argument? Current Israeli land has been occupied by the Jewish people for thousands of years. These so called Palestinians are a bunch of cockroaches.
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  13. IGNORING HISTORIC ANCIENT PALESTINE IS LIKE IGNORING THE PALESTINIAN JEWS WHO’S ROOTS GOES BACK AGES AND CENTURIES BEFORE CHRIST AND WHO ARE VERY PROUD OF THEIR PALESTINIAN NATIONALITY AS WELL THEIR JEWISH RELIGION AND WHO ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THOSE TERRORISTIC ZIONIST ANTI CHRIST GHETTOS PEOPLE AND GANGS ISRAEL’S AND THEIR TERRORISTIC 1948 UNLAWFUL ANTI CHRIST ISRAEL’S STATE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY CONSIDERED THEM NOTHING BUT CONVERTER WHO MOST OF THEM ARE ATHEIST FENATIC RACIST
    THIS NOT TO MENTION THE PALESTINIAN CHRISTIAN AND MUSLIM
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    • What “ancient Palestinians”? Why do you people always lie and fabricate history? The Philistines died out before Jesus was even born. The current Palestinians are fabricated by Hamas and come from Egypt and Saudi Arabia. In fact, they only begun to be called “Palestinians” in the creation of the PLO. They have their own home countries and should return there. Jihadists will always invent lies to takeover other people’s countries.
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    • Palestine is mainly a western name of the region. For the Turks and the muslims and the Jews it was Syria. Zion is a biblical concept and means Jerusalem/\Israel. Muslims however use this label as a license to spew out their racist hatred on the Christians and the Jews. Zionism is not the illuminati but you would swear they are by the way muslims are carrying on. The illuminati is a satanic masonic organisation and they love muslims because muslims are so keen to wipe out other religions, and peoples.
      The restoration of Israel is fulfilled prophecy. It is in the Bible. Israel exists, so get over it. It is only the Naturei Karta Jews who believe that because they made a vow never to build up Israel again until the Messiah arrives, there should be no israel today. But there it is, it exists as a Jewish state. The only one in the whole world. Whereas the muslims destroyed half the world and still have 57 islamic hellholes. Muslims are the original invaders and illegal occupiers of other peoples lands, mostly christian and jewsish lands, but also buddhist and hindu land. Pakistan was stolen from the Indians, and they are hellbent on taking Kashmir and all of India too.
      As for the christians, it is only those deceived christians who think muslims are their friends. But ISIS is showing them the truth about Islam and its muslims.
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  14. Ricardo-I am from one of those ancient Mizrahi Jewish Families that have always lived there, our Home and Lands in Hebron were looted from us by the Grand Mufti’s Men in 1929, and we were ethnically cleansed by the Jordanians when they occupied the Disputed Territories and Jerusalem in 1948. And now the Israeli Jewish population is 52% Mizrahi/Sephardi. And we are very glad that there is Israel, and I am a Zionist. We will never be “dhemmi” again.
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  16. The fact that there are idiots out there that even waste their time trying to convince people that Palestinians have claim to Israeli land is just beyond comprehension. Who first settled on the land thousands and thousands of years ago according to the Bible? Enough said….
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  17. Yossef Weitz, déclarait en 1940 : « Il faut exproprier des terres cultivées à présent par les Arabes et les libérer pour y installer des Juifs »
    C’est pas bien de mentir !!!
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  18. This does not prove anything – just more propaganda. We know that people of all 3 faiths used to live side by side in the holy land, so having photographs does not change the fact that there were Christian Arabs, Muslim Arabs as well as Jews in the holy land during that period…..
    In fact, this shows that Arabs & Muslims were more tolerant towards Jews, than Israeli governments since, towards Palestinian Arabs (both Muslims & Christians)..
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    • Mudhar-my Family in Hebron and Jerusalem was there when the Arabs first road up the perfume road, were expulsed from Jerusalem by Crusaders, but never left the Land. The majority of folks called Arab Palestinians were emigres from after the building of the Suez Canal, and after the Zionist Land Acquistion companies started to make cash investment, skills and knowledge investment into Lands that were used up, to the point where they did not support villages of Fellehin, who of course were also being wiped out by Bedouin Raiders neither the Effendi, nor the Turks bothered to protect anyone from. And yes, as long as the “dhemmi” laws were upheld, and the jizya paid, and you didn’t complain about being insulted and hit in the face in the souk, or complain if some Effendi raped your wife or daughter….then yes, you could say there was a “peace”…..
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    • Still living in your muslim fantasy of deceit? Muslims were the worst, the nightmare has been so dark that nobody even wants to talk about it. A trauma best forgotten. But muslims just continue with their perpetual unholy jihad in their quest to rule the world, just like all psychopaths do. If muslims were truly tolerant and kind and forgiving etc then they would not be so mean and violent towards the Jews who want to access their one and only holy site to pray. If muslims were anything like you pretend then there would be peace in the Middle East. But there never has been peace since Islam arrived on the scene. Once they had conquered and subjugated the christians and the Jews and pagans and stolen their land and property, they proceeded to kill each other, and have not stopped since. Neither has their inbred hatred for the Jews and the Christians and their own apostates, who are even more vile that the kaffirs, according to the unholy koran.
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  20. The word Nabka, the mass migration and massacre of Palestinians for the creation of the stare of Israel in 1948; is written and widely used in Israeli law. In fact Sharon himself said that Israel is occupying Palestine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk3GuRHLlpY. This ludicrous claim that has been circulating the internet that there is no genocide if there is no people is shameless and abhorrent.
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      • True! some could ask, why the muslims dont want the jews in Israel, (fakestine) I personally think, it can be cooked down to one simple thing: the socalled holy Couran, say that there cannot be a jewish state! and actually, at the same time, tells the muslims, to wellcome the jews, in Israel,, -a true example of the double standard, of islam/the Couran!
    • It is really only the muslims who have no conscience about invading and illegally occupying, colonising and stealing the wealth of others, whilst enslaving and converting them by violence and oppression to islam. Islam would have died out of mohammad died too, if it were not for all the murdering, conquering and stealing, as well as taking the women and the children and making them the slaves of muslims. Muslims are the ones that have an ancient homeland. It is called arabia.
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  21. The Quran admits that Allah is Satan (Lucifer)!
    (Quran 3:54,8:30) “Allah is the Greatest of all deceivers”
    (Revelation 12:9) “the Devil and Satan who deceives the whole world”
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    (Quran 10:37) “ Allah is the Lord of the worlds”
    (2 Corinthians 4:3-4) “Satan is the god (LORD) of this world”
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    (Quran 59:23) “Allah is the most proud”
    (Isaiah 14:12-15/Ezekiel 28:11-19) “Satan was cast out of Heaven because of his pride”
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    (Quran 3:156, 7:158, 15:23, 57:2) “Allah is the DESTROYER”
    (1 Corinthians 10:10) “Satan is the DESTROYER”
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    (Quran 2:191) “ Kill them wherever you find them”
    (Exodus 20:13) “Thou shalt not kill”
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    (Hadith 4:52:177) Allah’s Apostle said: “The hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and a stone in which a Jew will be hiding will say “Oh Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me so come & kill him”
    (John 16:1-3) “These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that (WHOSOEVER KILLETH YOU WILL THINK THAT HE DOETH GOD SERVICE). And these things will they do unto you, because (THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN THE FATHER, NOR ME).”
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    (Quran 9:29) “Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the last day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah & his messenger, and those (MEANING CHRISTIANS & JEWS) that acknowledge not the “Religion of Truth” (MEANING ISLAM) among the people of the scripture until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and they feel themselves subdued”
    (Revelation 21:8) “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and (MURDERERS), and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death”
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    (Hadith 8:73:224) “Allah’s Apostle said: The most awful name in Allah’s sight on the day of resurrection will be that of a man calling himself “ MALIK AL-AMLAK” (MEANING THE KING OF KINGS)
    (Revelation 17:14/ Revelation 19:14-16/ 1 Timothy 6:14-15) “These shall make war with the Lamb (MEANING JESUS), and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and (KING OF KINGS): and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful”
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    (Sura 8:60) “Strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of God and your enemies and others”
    (Sura 7:4) “If you encounter in war those who disbelieve, strike their necks…. Behead them”
    (Sura 8:12) “Give firmness to the believers (MEANING MUSLIMS) I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers (MEANING NON-MUSLIMS), you smite them above their necks and smite all their finger tips off them”
    (Revelation 20:4) “Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been (BEHEADED) because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who (HAD NOT WORSHIPED THE BEAST OR HIS IMAGE, AND HAD NOT RECEIVED THE MARK ON THEIR FOREHEAD AND ON THEIR HAND); and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years”
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  22. Seriously I would not cast stones, Dov Lior wrote that during war the attacked people are allowed to punish the enemy population in any punishment it finds worthy, such as denying supplies or electricity and also to bomb the whole area according to the discretion of the army minister and not to just simply endanger soldier’s lives but to take crushing deterrence steps to exterminate the enemy. Rabbi Manis Friedman “The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way: Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children (and cattle),”
    A Book by Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro of Yitzhar permits even the murder of babies and children who pose threat. Chief Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu — one of the most senior theocrats in the Jewish State “ruled that there was absolutely no moral prohibition against the indiscriminate killing of civilians during a potential massive military offensive on Gaza aimed at stopping the rocket launchings”
    these are the religious leaders spewing a call for genocide. Racism and incitement is well-routed in Israel society. From the prime minister calling for blood to the Israeli laws that segregate palestinians.
    “When we said no more we meant no more for anyone” this is a quote from an open letter by 350 holocaust survivors and their descendants denouncing Israel for Protective Edge
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    • Israel has proven again and again that it has the most ethical army in the world. I am sure that some jews must feel the way I do about muslims, and I don’t have to deal with their violence at all, personally, like they do. I think islam and its muslims are a serious threat to global security. Christians and Jews don’t want to fight but it seem that the muslims do, and not to strike back is suicide. And to strike back with full vengeance might just be the most merciful thing to do instead of drawing the matter out endlessly. It is only islam’s muslims that are calling for genocide and do it on a daily and constant basis, and also carry out their threats and blood lust without conscience. It really is not racist to stand up and defend yourself. And to not do so would be the same thing Jews did when Hitler attacked them. It is the wise thing to do. You make it almost sound like the Koran is sourced from the Babylonian Talmud?
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    • in the book written by Churchils official biographer Martin Gilbert “churchil and the Jews” page 44, the writer states that when Churchil visited Gaza in 1921 as secretary of state of the colonies there were less than 15000 Arabs in the Gaza strip according to British mandate population figures. You night ask how did the number grow to 1.5M? the answer is that till a few years ago there was no border fence and all the displaced Arabs of the region which is always in constant turmoil and conflict came to Israel for economic and social reasons. Jews hav elived in Israel for 4000 years! , and other than when they were murdered and ethnically cleansed from parts o Israel in the years of 1948 to 1967 were the inhabitants of Israel. Why are they called settlers? 19 out of 4000 years and all of a sudden they are setllers?
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      • They never flooded Israel for “economic reason”. The area was virtually barren. There was scarcity of water. They forced their presence on the area as a jihad strategy pushed by the Saudi’s and Amin al Husseini. There was only one reason their presence grew in Israel: occupation and war.
  23. An important note I would like to addis that I don’t believe that Judaism, Islam and or Christianity call for the death of innocents. I know that all three religions are morally and ethically just. I believe in humanity and that if anyone of us comes upon a child being beaten, starved or neglected we would act before we ask about ethnicity. Anyone who uses religion to incite a population to commit unspeakable acts of violence is despicable and extremists. My worry is that those extremists In Israel hold so much power and/or influence.
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    • Islam does call for the death of innocents, except that they are not considered innocent, but kaffirs, polytheists and apostates. It is only the muslims who are acting in accordance with the inherent evil of the unholy koran, and its sira and hadiths. You don’t have to worry about the minute minority of radical jews in Israel, what you do have to worry about is the muslims, since the manner in which they are jihading the jews, is exactly how they intend to do it to you as well, should they get even half a chance.
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  27. Probe the thug-ocracy of Yasser Arafat (YA). There you will find the impotent seed of this later day movement. Simply follow the money and gaze upon Arafat’s personal nest egg at between $1 billion and $3 billion. A brand was created, not a nation founded on the life in a public land benefitting citizens. The term Palestinian People is far too generous and endearing description, which we all are debating. This is a distraction to the core mantra. The Palestine Liberation Organization is an organization founded (a sort time ago) in 1964 with the purpose of the “liberation of Palestine” through armed struggle. Did a non-Jewish ethnicity benefit from YA’s political ideology and unrepentant terrorism? The answer is no. Did they lose? The answer is yes. However, trust that all the money is being enjoyed…. à la Clamart.
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  28. Shalom, Rome after the destruction of Israel in 70 A.D. re-named Israel to Palestine it may of been.
    However, the Jews returning to Israel, in 1917 it may of been, with the Balfour Declaration, was by The Will of The God of Abraham.
    The same God who created the Heavens and Earth, is the Same God who created the Nation Israel, through Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (whose name was changed to Israel) — Isaac is the child of the covenant of God, not Ishmael.
    However God did say He would make a great people of Ishmael it may of been with 12 Princes; and that his hand would be against every man and that every man’s hand against him.
    God also said (in the Torah it may be) not to hate your brother. So the Arabs/’Palestinians’ are not to be hated.
    Islam is a false Religion. Islam denies Jesus is God’s Son, of whom Jesus (Yehoshua) is the only way To God.
    Israel being Birthed as a Nation in 1948 is The God of Israel’s doing. During the End of the World, which may begin Soon, 1/3 of the Jews may turn to Jesus/Yahshua.
    Blessings,
    Victor
    (It all goes back to the Bible) — Israel’s land may be a Royal Land Grant from God, it may be God’s Land, messing with God’s land = not good.
    David of The Bible, actually bought the Land or Temple Mount area it may be, The Title Deed is the Bible, David legally purchased The Temple mount area it may be, from Ornan the Jebusite or someone.
    :)
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    • (the ‘it may be’ up above, doesn’t sound good) Here is the Word, from the Bible, (on triple honor)
      1 Chronicles 21:18 Then the angel of the LORD commanded Gad to say to David, that David should go up, and set up an altar unto the LORD in the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite.
      19 And David went up at the saying of Gad, which he spake in the name of the LORD.
      20 And Ornan turned back, and saw the angel; and his four sons with him hid themselves. Now Ornan was threshing wheat.
      21 And as David came to Ornan, Ornan looked and saw David, and went out of the threshingfloor, and bowed himself to David with his face to the ground.
      22 Then David said to Ornan, Grant me the place of this threshingfloor, that I may build an altar therein unto the LORD: thou shalt grant it me for the full price: that the plague may be stayed from the people.
      23 And Ornan said unto David, Take it to thee, and let my lord the king do that which is good in his eyes: lo, I give thee the oxen also for burnt offerings, and the threshing instruments for wood, and the wheat for the meat offering; I give it all.
      24 And king David said to Ornan, Nay; but I will verily buy it for the full price: for I will not take that which is thine for the LORD, nor offer burnt offerings without cost.
      25 So David gave to Ornan for the place six hundred shekels of gold by weight.
      26 And David built there an altar unto the LORD, and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings, and called upon the LORD; and he answered him from heaven by fire upon the altar of burnt offering.
      27 And the LORD commanded the angel; and he put up his sword again into the sheath thereof.
      28 At that time when David saw that the LORD had answered him in the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite, then he sacrificed there.
      29 For the tabernacle of the LORD, which Moses made in the wilderness, and the altar of the burnt offering, were at that season in the high place at Gibeon.
      30 But David could not go before it to enquire of God: for he was afraid because of the sword of the angel of the LORD.
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  29. Ezekiel 36:1 Also, thou son of man, prophesy unto the mountains of Israel, and say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the LORD:
    2 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because the enemy hath said against you, Aha, even the ancient high places are ours in possession:
    3 Therefore prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they have made you desolate, and swallowed you up on every side, that ye might be a possession unto the residue of the heathen, and ye are taken up in the lips of talkers, and are an infamy of the people:
    4 Therefore, ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, to the desolate wastes, and to the cities that are forsaken, which became a prey and derision to the residue of the heathen that are round about;
    5 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, (Esau – maybe the Palestinians) which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.
    6 Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury, because ye have borne the shame of the heathen:
    7 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I have lifted up mine hand, Surely the heathen that are about you, they shall bear their shame.
    8 But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall shoot forth your branches, and yield your fruit to my people of Israel; for they are at hand to come. (1917 – 1948)
    9 For, behold, I am for you, and I will turn unto you, and ye shall be tilled and sown:
    10 And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all of it: and the cities shall be inhabited, and the wastes shall be builded:
    11 And I will multiply upon you man and beast; and they shall increase and bring fruit: and I will settle you after your old estates, and will do better unto you than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
    12 Yea, I will cause men to walk upon you, even my people Israel; and they shall possess thee, and thou shalt be their inheritance, and thou shalt no more henceforth bereave them of men.
    13 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they say unto you, Thou land devourest up men, and hast bereaved thy nations;
    14 Therefore thou shalt devour men no more, neither bereave thy nations any more, saith the Lord GOD.
    15 Neither will I cause men to hear in thee the shame of the heathen any more, neither shalt thou bear the reproach of the people any more, neither shalt thou cause thy nations to fall any more, saith the Lord GOD.
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  30. (Battle of Gog/Magog — Russia/Iran & others attempted invasion of Israel in the Latter Days) [Basically right now!] Ezekiel 38:8 ….in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
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  31. (see last verse)
    Isaiah 34:1 Come near, ye nations, to hear; and hearken, ye people: let the earth hear, and all that is therein; the world, and all things that come forth of it.
    2 For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter. (This may be at Armageddon)
    3 Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcases, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood.
    4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
    5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea, (Esau — maybe the Palestinians) and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
    6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, (Jordan it may be) and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea. (Esau — maybe the Palestinians)
    7 And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.
    8 For it is the day of the LORD’S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.
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  32. Joel 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, (Right Now!) when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, (1948/1967)
    Joel 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, (‘Armageddon’) and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land. (Parting Land is what their trying to do right now so to say, with maybe a Palestinian State)
    —- Daniel 9:27 — Seven year peace deal with Israel and Many begins the Seven Year End of the World. (could be near — possibly very) – http://www.endoftheworld.net
    Shalom
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  33. last post at this time:
    Psalm 102:16 When the LORD shall build up Zion, he shall appear in his glory.
    Israel may be pretty built up today in 2014.
    :)
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  34. Awesome work with the trolls, *gets popcor and notepad* but actually I will like to know how I can get more pictures?, loved them all :) great post. Bless Israel, beacon of light in that sea of darkness!!!
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